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hamlet
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 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:44 am Post subject: Nice Interview with Jeff and Mark Locke about WWOH vid |
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http://www.videology-tv.com/viewclip.php?id=69
Does anyone agree that even folk music is moving to the right and getting more fascistic? Rap sure as hell is. |
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Will Oldham
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Its nice to read an interview on WWOH that consists of more than just asking Jeff if it really happened
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Kieron
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That's a really good interview - it gives a good insight into the song and video.
| hamlet wrote: | | Does anyone agree that even folk music is moving to the right and getting more fascistic? |
Nice question, Hamlet. As far as I can see, it depends on what part of 'folk' music you look at. If one considers the kind of folk music associated with the folk revivalists of the sixties then I'm not sure they were ever that open. I mean, look at English folk legacy Fairport Convention, then sure, their songs were pretty open-minded, in a woolly sort of way. Stories of working people, like Thomas Hardy novels condensed into prog-drenched 5 minute folk songs. However, are the old guard of folk keen to get involved and recognise the new wave of alt.folk? The Cropredy Festival - run by Fairport Convention - has always appeared to shy away from the more politically outspoken or downright off-kilter music. To wit, Chris TT, a British, politically left-leaning singer-songwriter struggles to get gigs outside of small indie bars and clubs. Nae an invite to any of the bigger folk festivals or supporting folk bands. Musicians following closely the vain of the revivalist sixties folk are conservative in their embrace of newer folk forms. I don't know if this has been a shift over time, or if it has always been the case. Perhaps it doesn't really exist, except in my imagination.
There is a feature on the birth of anti-folk in an old copy of Urban Folk, and apparently it all began because the folk establishment in New York were not interested in hearing the off-the-wall quirkiness of people like Lach. Lach and a few others (names escape me) started their own jam nights to counteract this snobbery.
Regarding newer folk artists - Will Oldham, for example - is he just a product of a western world that is primarily concerned with promoting self above society? Perhaps people feel liberated by folk music and this is why people play it. Should we blame artists for being more right-wing than traditionally happened, when in fact, they're just observing the world as they see it? It's an interesting question you raise there Hamlet. I must say, a hell of a lot of the music I have been listening to lately has not struck me as particularly right-wing - though I've been listening to stuff on tiny labels and who give their music away for free or very cheaply. Though the far-right British National Party had one of their members write a folk song about how important it is to keep England Caucasian and Anglo-Saxon.
Perhaps, after all, there is no difference in the spectrum of political tendencies in folk music now compared to the sixties… |
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jack fe
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Yeah, I'd say that (mainstream) folk music has always seemed to be quite conservative and right wing. I'm no expert, but it's definitely seemed that way to me.
Punk rock is still generally very left wing, although you see a few groups for republican "punks" (one is run by a former Misfit and one of the Ramones before he died, I believe).
I've just never really thought of any rock music as right wing. It doesn't really make sense to me. I've never really noticed how pretty much every band I'm into is left-wing if it ever comes to politics. Although, if a band was singing about "christian values" and how the government is always right, I doubt I'd be able to connect with them.
Right wingers in general worry me. Especially young people. I don't see how that belief can be held in this generation. I know how idiotic it sounds to condemn a complete half of the political spectrum and I am by no means an expert, but thats how I generally feel.
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